Beyond Belief.

 Levitating Super Turtle. Huh, what a concept within a concept. As much, as I like his analogy I found it to be mundane and cliche. However, I do like his well-placed logic and his "attempt" to propose a co-emergence between science and god, though, you do know where he is coming from and I admit "batting" for the same team I can identify, but I did sense a little bit of a condescending attitude; however, again, I do understand his position. It is a strive for a cooperative existence with one another.

I think my reception of this speaker (name?) was a bit bi-polar all the through. I sensed a little English "stuffiness," but rightfully so, as I did FULLY comprehend his disdainful criticism of the American 'cling' to the concept of God. America is after all , the most guilty party in all of this. However, I'd like to see an American besides Marilyn Manson (a scientist) point this out. At least a scientist wouldn't be blamed for a school shooting! Then again, this America and I just don't know anymore.

Ah! The discussion of fundamentalism and morals! Where do morals come from? This is exactly one aspect of religion that I am fuming on at the moment. In my mind, to quote a wise man and artist- Marilyn Manson, "God is an excuse, god is an excuse god is an excuse!" Comparing the bible to Pride and Prejudice is absolutely ludicrous! The bible, in my mind is comparable to Greek mythology. And, I mean that without prejudice or spite.
Spinoza intends God just as some Agnostics, possibly Freeman Dyson! After all, empirically can we say there IS a God? Empirically, I can NOT say yes. Can you?

Furthermore, as this portion of discussion moves on, it becomes more apparent that Spinoza had adapted his "faith" based on a philosophy, much like most Buddhists, which is fine, it's fundamental aspect that I have issue with. However, the speaker makes one error, in my foresight pertaining to ethics and morals. Do we need the language of the so-called holy books for any sort of morality? I don't think so, I tend to agree with the speaker in the following video, which was quite astonishing with regard to NATURAL human morality and ethics.

-Mircelous Grimm (Jeremy Watkins).